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Witness statement Lisa Smith described Irish Government as ‘shower of b******s’, trial hears

Patrick Reilly said that Ms Smith told him that the Irish and Western Governments were "all a shower of b******s" and that they were "controlling us".

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Lisa Smith (39), from Dundalk, Co Louth, arriving at the Special Criminal Court. Picture: Collins

Lisa Smith (39), from Dundalk, Co Louth, arriving at the Special Criminal Court. Picture: Collins

Lisa Smith (39), from Dundalk, Co Louth, arriving at the Special Criminal Court. Picture: Collins

A former colleague of alleged Islamic State member Lisa Smith has told her trial that she described the Irish Government as "a shower of b******s" while talking "anti-Western stuff".

Patrick Reilly, who worked as an aircraft technician in the military, also gave evidence that the accused showed him videos of the Taliban doing 'manoeuvres in the desert' during one of their guard duties.

The Special Criminal Court this morning heard from witnesses in Australia via video link including federal agents attached to counter terror units.

Former Defence Force member Patrick Reilly was first called to give evidence and said that he served in the military in various roles between 1991 and 2013.

He told the three judges that he worked as an aircraft technician and in 2011 was stationed at Casement Aerodrome in Baldonnel.

Mr Reilly said he was on a 24-hour guard duty on February 12, 2011, at a time when Irish citizens were being repatriated from Libya via Malta.

The witness told prosecutor Sean Gillane SC that he went into the guard room and was "shocked" to hear Lisa Smith "talking anti-Western stuff".

Patrick Reilly said that Ms Smith told him that the Irish and Western Governments were "all a shower of b******s" and that they were "controlling us".

The court heard that they later went into the armoury to collect their weapons and ammunition when Ms Smith said that Islam "is the way forward."

Later during their shift Mr Reilly said he was editing pictures on his laptop when the accused borrowed it and began showing him "Middle Eastern videos."

This, he said, included footage uploaded to YouTube showing what he believed to be the Taliban doing manoeuvres in the desert.

Mr Reilly told defence counsel Justin McQuade BL, defending, that he was aware through other people that Ms Smith was converting to Islam at this time.

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He said he would not be surprised that Ms Smith was given a favourable report by her superiors who described her as an industrious, hard-working, and reliable individual working in a sensitive area providing VIP services as a flight attendant.

The witness also said that they used to refer to Ms Smith and other flight attendants as "trolley dollies" as a form of "banter" which was now "politically incorrect."

Later Jake Samson, a federal agent with the Australian police and member of a joint counter terrorism team, gave evidence.

He said he was a case officer for Operation Middleman in which Robert Cerantonio was the target.

The court previously heard that Cerantonio was an extremist preacher and an administrator of the 'We Hear We Obey' Facebook group along with Ms Smith.

Agent Samson said that in May 2016 several people including Robert Cerantonio were arrested and charged with certain offences.

The court heard that he later pleaded guilty in 2019 to preparing an incursion to the Philippines to engage in hostile activity and was jailed for seven years.

The trial continues tomorrow before Mr Justice Tony Hunt, presiding, with Judge Gerard Griffin and Judge Cormac Dunne.

Ms Smith (40), with an address in Dundalk, Co Louth, is on trial charged with membership of the unlawful terrorist group between October 28, 2015, and December 1, 2019.

The former soldier is also accused of trying to finance terrorism by attempting to provide €800 in assistance, via a Western Union money transfer, to a named man on May 6, 2015, for the benefit of the same terror organisation.

She has pleaded not guilty to both charges.

It is the prosecution's case that she emigrated, or made hegira, to IS to provide support to the terror group who had established a caliphate.

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